“Barriers break when we talk” goes the tag line of a mobile telephony service provider. But judging by the kind of hysteria and frenzy that the media unleashed a few weeks back over some remarks made by Raj Thackeray, that breaking of barriers bit seems to be true only about kids. And now with the media acquiring the capability to launch high voltage hysteria at the drop of a hat, one can be certain that the first things that will fly out of the window whenever an important emotive issue crops are reasoned dialogue and intelligent debate. So where do you go from here? To a police state where freedom of speech and expression are considered dangerous and anyone who raises inconvenient issues is promptly gagged and incarcerated?
It all started with Raj taking a dig at Amitabh’s brand ambassador status for U.P., and his largesse toward his home state. Amitabh has had an on again off again relationship with the media depending on his equation with the media’s presiding deity at the Delhi durbar and they were not really on the best of terms following some media wallas getting roughed up by the security at his son’s wedding last August. The mediawallas getting it from the Uttar Bharatiya Bollywood crowd is par for the course. In the70s Dharmendra beat up a lady journalist Deviyani Chaubal. With the rise of the brats like Sanju Baba, Salman Khan, Saif Ali etc, all of whom are known to pack a mean punch, covering the Bollywood circuit has become a dangerous affair. But that changed suddenly with Raj Thakeray posing a few questions to Amitabh. The entire media fraternity rose like one man to defend Amitabh and flay Thackeray, never mind the fact that the questions which Raj had posed made eminent sense. But the mediawallas love it. Lessons there for Raj – kick them in the butt and they fall at your feet, pull your punches and they will walk all over you.
So what exactly is wrong with Raj’s objections to Amitabh’s Maharashtra unfriendly ways? Well – two things. First you don’t question Uttar Bharatiyas. In yeh mera India, that is just not done. Second Raj is wrong because he is applying the wrong standards to the wrong people. Sharing your good fortune, wealth etc., giving back to society, the people from whom received in such bountiful measure are not Uttar Bharatiya virtues. After all the Uttar Bharatiyas can hardly be expected to relate to such ideas that are integral to Maharashtrian culture as articulated in Dnyanpeeth awardee Vinda Karandikar
Denaryani det rahave, ghenarayne ghet rahave,
Gheta Gheta, Eke divishi denaryache haath ghyave
The giver should go on giving, the receiver should go on receiving
Then one fine day, he should take the givers hands.
Excuse the poor translation, but the point is there is a pay back time and those who have received in such full measure should have no problems about paying back. Amitabh, Shatrughan Sinha, Shekhar Suman, and others who have come to Maharashtra and made their zillions accept that Maharashtra has given them a lot. But the point is what have they given back to Maharashtra? Let us make a list - bomb blasts, casting couch, indignities heaped on ordinary citizens from slaps to physical assaults, drug culture along with the patronizing of drug mafia and underworld. On the other hand take the example of Shivaji Gaikwad, Rajnikant bus conductor from Bangalore who made it big in Tamil films. Rajni I understand, gives back a lot of his wealth and earnings to Tamil Nadu. Has anyone heard of Rajni talking about his Maharashtra origins? Will the Tamilians like it if he were to fund schools and colleges in Maharashtra while doing nothing for his karmbhoomi?
Now we understand that Amitabh has initiated legal process to take repossession of the land he had donated. Would it be wrong if Raj Thackeray were to paraphrase his dialogue from Trishul - “Amitabh tumhare pas subkuchh hai, jameem, jaidaad, gadi bangle, even kheti bari, lekin tumhare jaisa garib Maharashtra ne aaj tak nahin dekha.”
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I think u pls shut ur mouth &keep quiet as u dont know anything u dont know what Mr amitabh has done for maharashtra.He has donated millions of rupees to maharashtra &tell me what has Raj done for maharashtra.Amitabh is an actor,he earns by working hard & Maharashtra is proud of him as becuse of him maharashtra is popular & what abilities does Raj have as only he can provoke poor peoples to fight in name of caste & culture,you cannot understand a simple thing as everyone knows before Raj & Mr Amitabh were close friend & know only for cheap publicity & political mileage he is passing comments on Mr Amitabh.After seven birth also he cannot come to his knee level also.Raj is just fooling peoples.He is just seating in his bunglow & enjoying looking telivision how peoples r fighting.Tell me one thing he owes a mill &lots of property from where did it came,pls tell u stupid ,Amitabh is working hard for money ca Raj earn like that,its a politics why to take Amitabhs name in middle let this politicians fight with each other & die Jai Maharashtra .Jai Hind.Hum sab ek hain
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Dear Munir,
Your writings reveal that you are a secular and level headed Indian. Your unbiased way of analysing situations is remarkable.Keep posting your views.
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I must say u sounded very fanatic this is a case where one shld think in broader terms.
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1st priority is to get compensiton for all the Hindus victims of islamic hate crimes. {the islamic communalists of Gujarat got it after post-Godhra. It is rewarding the criminality! In this RajT case too, govt rewarded the islamic communalist, abu azmi, rather than RajT by foolishly being too harsh on the latter which made MNS workers very upset. Same way, the govt was too nice to Delhi imam and that caused 1788 deaths post-babri; that imam has 15 arrest warrants pending against him. Govt is too cowardly to arrest him !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!}
At the same time, boycotting islamic and xian business/bible-edn is critical too!!.! This is for the safety of muslims adn xians too.
Remember post-Godhra normal and natural backlash during Guajarat-2002?! We dont want any repeat of that. The sense of outrage and disdain among the secular public is palpable. They may explode any day.. .
Any fool can criticize and demonize anyone else in us-vs-they manner {like the islamic and xian cults do as in believer/unbeliever bifurcation}, "but exploiting it for their selfish {ego trips} ends" is NOT right.. Everyone is selfish and all exploit the weak and vulnerable ones..right? Even a husband may exploit his wife, right? All islamic women and dalit muslims have been exploited for several hundred years now, by the islamic males in closely bound inner circle, right? Explotation has been unresolved for ages.
Somewhat relatedly, this is what Miriam Madam emailed to me:=
"Facing the Islamist Menace Christopher Hitchens Selected Responses:=
Sent by Lincoln R. Carr on 01-23-2007:
The problem with limiting Muslim immigration in Western Europe is that, if Steyn's book is correct, the Europeans have painted themselves into a demographic corner. Even the populations of Catholic countries are failing to reproduce themselves. Western European democracies have become dependent upon the Muslim population influx to supply the young workers needed to support their social programs. The only remedy I can see, short of a drastic change in political philosophy that would shrink those social programs, is to take immigrants from non-Muslim ethnic groups, such as Latinos from Central and South America or non-Muslim Asians from India."
{Christopher Hitchens is a columnist for Vanity Fair and the author of "God Is Not Great."}
Pls read my response to other blogs on the same subject of violent intolerance of abu azmi gang towards RajT. {I regret my repeated reference to abu azmi that would almost amount to promoting him to an undeserved level of respectability!!!}
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More clear, concrete, and compelling evidence is thus available as I looked for it with interest !!
Should Mumbaikars be happy with this christian criminals? :=
/////////////////// Car thieves held
Madurai, Jan 13 2007: Madurai rural police have arrested two persons who allegedly stole cars from Mumbai and sold them here after changing number plates. Abraham (32) was arrested during a routine vehicle checking, police said here.
He was driving a brand new Toyota Qualis and sighting police, he tried unsuccessfully to run away, leaving behind the vehicle. Abraham's friend Ilayaraja was also arrested.
Their modus operandi was to steal new vehicles from Mumbai and bring them here after fixing fake number plates, they said.
Police also seized a Mahindra Scorpio car from Ilayaraja's house.///////////////
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Clear, concrete, and compelling evidence is thus available if only one can look for it with interest !!
Should parents be tolerant about this christian criminal? :=
//////////////Primary school principal arrested for molesting girls
Principal of Bal Vidyalaya in Bhayandar threatened the girls that they would fail if they didn’t comply Posted On Sunday, March 02, 2008 Principal of Bal Vidyalaya in Bhayandar,
Ram Parmar
Principal Sebastian Gonsalves (blue shirt) was arrested under Section 354 (molestation) of the IPC on Saturday
The principal of a Bhayandar school has been arrested for molesting minor girls of Class III and IV after school hours, on the pretext of giving these weak students extra coaching lessons. The girls were threatened that they would fail if they complained.
Sebastian Gonsalves, 31, who is the principal of Bal Vidyalaya in Uttan, Bhayandar has allegedly been molesting minor girls during their extra coaching lessons. Gonsalves would allegedly order the girls to lift their garments and would then touch the girls’ private parts, said Selipa Leo Munis, the mother of a victim who lodged a complaint against Gonsalves at the Bhayandar police station.
The girls were so scared that they skipped going to school, giving flimsy excuses, said Munis. The victims finally blurted out the truth when coaxed by their parents, which compelled Munis to lodge the complaint.
Gonsalves was arrested under Section 354 (molestation) of the IPC and Section 41 (1) (exploitation of minor) of the Juvenile Justice Act,1986 on Saturday. Police Inspector Ashok Worlikar of the Bhayandar police station said Gonsalves has been remanded to police custody till March 15 after being produced before the Thane Sessions Court. So far, three girls have come forward to complain against Gonsalves.
Munis said, “Gonsalves has destroyed the holy relation between a guru and shishya.”
The incident has sent shock waves in the fishing community in Uttan, Rai, Mundha, Morva and other areas in Bhayandar. mumbai news
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What should RajT's patriotic team do? Allow more criminal migrants????!!
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It's normally not a Hindu but a muslim or christian who creates crimes, rifts and riots, common man all over the world are NOT same. It is the non-Maratis who commit most crimes:=
//////////Multiple burglaries in western suburbs
Jyoti Shelar Saturday, April 05, 2008 02:58 IST
Unidentified men broke into Ambika Jewellers store at Daftary road, Malad (east), early Friday morning and decamped with jewellery and cash worth Rs 26 lakh.
On Friday at around 9.30 am, a resident of Ashok Samrat society, where the store is located, noticed that the back door of the shop was open and immediately informed the owner, Kishanlal Jain.//////////////
Are they same in this list of savage riots:=
the savage islamic communalists riot, rape and rob at the most trivial pretext or context such as:=
** hanging of Saddam Hussain in far away Iraq;
** cartoons drawn in distant Denmark;
** foul remarks of a filthy xian called Rev. Jerry Falwell; etc
all of which had nothing to do with BJP/VHP or any Hindu leader like Mr Advani or Mr Modi..etc. The victims have not got any compensation either. If you are a true Gandhian, oyu must work on getting the compensation to the victims right away!
There is a sea of difference between islamic savage fanaticism and overtolerant Hindu lunatism! If people mistake them, it will be at their own peril. The crime waves Mumbaikars face is perlous indeed:=/////////"
Volvo passenger robbed of gold worth Rs54 lakh
V Narayan Thursday, April 17, 2008 14:43 IST
Two persons allegedly robbed 4.2kg of gold ornaments, worth Rs54.6 lakh, from a passenger of a Volvo bus by impersonating as policemen.
According to the police, the incident occurred on Sunday morning when Bansilal Gujar was on his way back to Mumbai from Hyderabad after collecting the consignment of the gold ornaments.
Gujar, who works with Kalpataru Jewellers at Zaveri Bazar, had reached Mankhurd at 8am when the bus (KA-03-B-9626) stopped at the signal after it turned red.
Gujar, in the police complaint, said the two persons claiming to be policemen, got into the bus saying they had to inspect the passengers."
Finally, one need not understand their own religion very well, to be a fine citizen!!
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Thanks to Munir Bhair for working to safeguard the greater interests of the secular public and respecting the sanctity of human life irrespective of their caste, creed or any other divisive hateful partisan communal faultlines unlike the islamic thug, abu azmi.
I find it hard to be neutral about this most sensitive of issues - the islamic hordes illegitimately if not illegally occupying the Hindu homelands and committing the most heinous of attrocities under the very nose of the govt of Maharashtra and Union Govt of UPA.
The particular stance I take from point of view of the secular public hold is meant to eradicate some of the pernicious and insidious violence on the greater civil society and their leaders like Raj Thakeray. Violence is worse than hate in some sense. That hatred is finding expression in the hateful language that get used against RajT. It has the backing from both the sinister islamic attackers (not only via the ugly media) and the secular clowns who carry the islamic vicious campaign to perpetuate colonialism. Such hateful venom targets any mutinous uprising like that of MNS in opposition to subjugation of Hindus to second class status in their own Holy Lands.
None of the secular public or their leaders is vocal about why we muslims are still here in India despite the fact that we were given two homelands with tons of money (crores of 1947 value). They see no conflict between our religion and our nationality. The public are not suspicious of us nor subject us to any scrutiny though themselves being somewhat of an uncomfortable (if not outright unsafe) existence in their own mother land, nay Holy Land, Hindustan.
Given the sort of millennium long existential islamic theat to Hindu survival, I pledge my full support to anyone working to end social injustice, hatred and violence bloodied by islamic conflict and their venoumous savagery - not only to damage India's image but also to weaken its economy, de-stabilize social order, deny political space to the likes of RajT and marginalize such great leaders who form the resistance force like the French resistance against the occupying nazis of Paris.
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Hi Munir
Thanks for your nice compliments. I wish there were more people like you on this board and in the country. Regards
Erad
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Krishna Balaji, The criminal crowd of Mumbai is now legendary!! I didnt say this but a pro-muslim journalist Tamil Brahmin:=
/////////////" M.V. Balaji posted 3 mnths ago
Well, that is real adventure tourism! Trusting two total strangers not to rob or murder you ib a mountainous area! jokes apart, .what the girl did was probably safer than taking a stroll in some areas of Delhi late in the evening where she wouldn't have got away unscathed!. My Mumbai friends used to boast that the city was far safer than Delhi as a woman could travel in the late evening metro fearlessly. Looks like the city is getting wilder than Delhi! "////////////
Thanks to secular pimps, secular eunuchs, secular savage like azmi is threatening the authorities and govt with mafia type intimidation:=
"I would like to tell the government that if 20 lakh Muslims pour onto the streets, it will be very
difficult to control the situation," Azmi told reporters "...the police station should be built in a
cosmopolitan area where there is a mix of Hindus and Muslims. The present location has 100 percent Muslim population," he said - meaning he has demarcated a no-go zone where ppl like u cant enter - not even the cops !!!! WHAT MORE EVIDENCE YOU WANT, BALAJI?!!
The savage islamic communalists riot, rape and rob at the most trivial pretext or context such as:=
** hanging of Saddam Hussain in far away Iraq;
** cartoons drawn in distant Denmark;
** foul remarks of a filthy xian called Rev. Jerry Falwell; etc
all of which had nothing to do with BJP/VHP or any Hindu leader like Mr RajT or Mr Modi..etc. The victims have not got any compensation either. If you are a true Gandhian, you must work on getting the compensaiton to the vicitms right away!
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